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So: don't be shy! Otherwise you might have to wait for ages till your personal favourite finally shows up here... don't say you haven't been warned!
If you want to post some stuff yourself and need any assistance, I'll be happy to help you - just contact me. At some later stage, there will be some help files / pages on this website, but this will have to wait until after summer... ;-)
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recordings
hi stoney,
do you have any recordings of music played at french sessions in vienna? would be nice if you post them!
märsi boku ;-)
magdalena
Hm, not so many from the
Hm, not so many from the French sessions I'm afraid. Only some I'm playing with Marinette, which are in part also being played at the French session.
Maybe you can motivate Martin or Simon to record some of them and put them online?
me again!
I find myself doing one thing at a time, like I'll add a lot of persons at one go, or a lot of tunes etc.
When you've, for example added a person, could there be a link on the page that appears once it's saved that says 'add another person' or something like that? That way I won't have to do the whole 'create content' - 'person' routine.
Also, could it be possible to delete things? What users are allowed to edit/delete what etc. ?
Like, a moment ago I added person 'christopher stour' when I meant to add 'christopher stout'. For some reason I thought it didn't save the first time and then added the right name. But when I noticed there was a 'christopher stour' I couldn't delete it. I'm jst gonna edit 'Christopher Stour' into a completely different person, so it's not a big problem, but sometimes it would be good to be able to delete at least content you've created yourself. Maybe this is already possible but I couldn't figure out how to do it...
Adding lots of content of one type / Edit/delete rights
1) Adding many persons (etc.): it should be possible to implement a link like you've described, yes.
But it also works OK this way: on http://archive.folx.org/node/add you have the link to "Person" - right click it, select "open in a new tab". Repeat this a couple of times. This way, you get lots of fresh forms to add people, each in it's own tab. This also has the advantage, that you can start with the filling in the next one while the former one still gets stored.
2) As for editing/deleting: for the moment I have set it the way that only an administrator can delete content. But I could grant that right also to editors like you, if you need it.
another request from me
Could it be possible to search for/click on a location?
Say I want to look at estonian tunes, I could just click on EE/Estonia like you can do with types of tunes.
It would be great if the same thing worked for recordings/videos. Be able to search for a specific type of tune or a country, but this might be more difficult?
Though, this cause problems with border tunes or specific genres (maybe we will see a lot of swedish/norwegian tunes. Or maybe you want to look at klezmer tunes, not a specific country)
I realise this is not a neccessary feature at the moment, but hopefully there'll be lots of tunes here in the future, where it would be very helpful.
"Country" pages maybe?
Sure, I will think about a solution. I think it can be done.
I'm aware of the problem of strict geographical connotations for tunes - actually it strikes me again and again that in its core Ethno has in this sense a bit of a nationalistic heritage to bear (albeit in its most harmless form), when inviting people there to teach tunes from "their country"... and, yes, Klezmer is a splendid example of trad music that can't easily be put (even though it's quite often possible to mark a specific Klezmer tune as "Romanian", "Russian" etc.) - and Irish Trad seems to be another example of a genre that more and more starts getting an international thing, almost like Jazz...
Anyway, for searching etc. this could be really helpful, I agree. A possibility would be to have one specific page for each country, listing everything: tunes, bands, events... This could even serve an important function for the folk scene in countries that not yet have a good working central folk music portal (like folkroddels.be in Belgium): I've had people from Croatia and even Denmark complaining that they are sorely missing a community website for their country, where you could find all folk music concert dates etc. - so why not start that here? ;-)
Anyway, as you say, it's not that urgent, so it will come on the waiting list for now.
tags?
maybe some sort of tag system?
Then you can tag a tune as 'Norway' and 'Sweden', or 'Romania' as well as 'Klezmer'. Then the klezmer tagged tunes s would be found when you did a search for 'klezmer'?
Additionally... maybe, yes...
Additionally... maybe, yes... On one hand I like tags, because they can be subjective and individual. On the other hand I'm not sure whether it makes it easy to process it furthermore and I don't want the people to have the double work of writing proper content plus tags... But maybe it's possible to autogenerate tags out of fields? Let's see! ;-)
two requests
Hi,
I've been looking around the site, and there are loads of really great resources, so I had a hard time thinking of new things to add, but I eventually thought of two. (1) on the pages where there is no recording, perhaps it would be good to have a link to a site where you can make a midi from the abc notation (e.g. http://music.gordfisch.net/oregans/miscellane...)... and (2) it could be cool to have the possibility for links to other versions of the same tune/song, just for fun/comparison... if anyone else thinks either of these are worth doing.... :) Ella
Improvements...
Hi Ella,
the second one is in fact already implemented... only there are not yet different versions of tunes in the database, so it doesn't show up. If you want, you can try it out and input a tune, then you'll see the field.
Automatical MIDI creation should be possible as well, I will only have to install some stuff on the server to make it work. I'll have a look during the next couple of days.
What would also be nice in my opinion: the possibility to individually put tunebooks together. Just don't know yet how to make this work as good as possible. ;-)
ciao
Stoney
tunebooks are a great idea!
tunebooks are a great idea! This function works relatively well on thesession.org , would it be possible to do it just like it's there, or is it more problematic here because this isn't an exclusively ABC-site?
I was also wondering, as I haven't tried yet, if it's possible so upload sibelius files? Or would I have to convert the .sib file to an image?
I see now that .sib is not possible. Could you make .sib files possible to upload, and if not sib is possible then at least bmp? You can convert sib files to an image, but not any of the formats that are allowed. So if I want to upload a sibelius file at the moment, first you have to convert it to bmp and then to another format which seems to be a bit much work...I certainly have some sibelius files I would like to share.
/Marit
.sib files upload should work now
...please test! :-)
I did notice! It works fine.
I did notice! It works fine. Thank you!
.sib Files / Tunebook
I can always make upload for different file types possible - and it's definitely a good idea to give users different possibilities. Same maybe for Finale or Capella files. Still I would suggest in that case to upload both the original files and a representation as .png or .gif to not keep it too restricted to Sibelius users.
As a first step towards tunebooks I'll probably just implement them as lists, in a way thesession.org also offers. This could already be quite useful - for instance...
* to put material for a particular session together,
* to give suggestions for people who want to start with a particular repertoire,
* to put collections together for players of one particular instrument.
Therefore, I think, there should be unlimited numbers of tunebooks per user.
No idea yet how to autocreate a printable tune book out of files of all the different formats. :-/ (Even though that might be possible)
But: if the community here gets large enough after a while, there will probably someone be at hand quickly to make abc versions of freshly posted tunes, thus making abc collections easy. To make this possible, tunes would need to get editable by everyone (or at least by more experienced users who get extra rights granted). Wikipedia works well this way, and there's not much risk, because it's also possible here to create revisions automatically. But I'll make sure that the original author credits for a posted tune stay intact! ;-)
\Stoney